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LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:03
by julkillu
Hi everybody, i'm new here, i don't find any section to introduce myself so this post will serve for this and for my problem, so i'm Julien i'm system and network admin in a IT service company in France.
I'm not an expert but not a newbie too on Alcatel OS lol ;), we have a lot of Alcatel switches 6450 series 6850 series and 6900 series, we use basic switch conf with Vlan, tagg, untagg, LLDP, QOS, LACP, Virtual Chassis, etc ... , we don't use routing on Alcatel, for this we have Stonesoft router/firewall.

i'm not fluent in english so sorry for all the mistakeS i'll do in my future posts and words ;)

My conf :

- two OmniSwitch 6900 20X-Port Chassis with OS-XNI-T8 additional cards (for have RJ45 ports) in Virtual Chassis with AOS 7.3.3.438.R01 Service Release, May 01, 2014

I have a simple question is it possible to do LACP with 2 (or more) 10 Gb interfaces SFP+ ? I think yes but i'll need to be sure, because i need this for connect my Synology RS3614xs+ who have an additional network card with 2 x 10gb SFP+ ports, and this ports on the Syno are in 802.3 ad so LACP mode.

When i try this :

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linkagg lacp agg 4 size 2 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 4 name "Vers-SRVNASLS"
linkagg lacp agg 4 actor admin-key 4
until here no problem but when i put a SFP+ port like this :

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linkagg lacp port 1/1/18 actor admin-key 4
i get this message :

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ERROR: Not aggregable port creation failed, please remove other configuration on this port
of course i search all conf with the 1/1/18 port and delete it, VLAN, SPB ISIS etc ... i delete the conf that i see with this port nevertheless i always have this fu..... message :evil:

And beside that i alreaydy have some LACP conf on this Virtual Chassis but on the RJ45 port (OS-XNI-T8), and they are working :

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linkagg lacp agg 1 size 4 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 1 name "Vers-Juniper"
linkagg lacp agg 1 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp agg 2 size 4 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 2 name "Vers-Stack-6450"
linkagg lacp agg 2 actor admin-key 2
linkagg lacp agg 3 size 4 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 3 name "Vers-SRVNASPICOTY"
linkagg lacp agg 3 actor admin-key 3
linkagg lacp agg 4 size 2 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 4 name "Vers-SRVNASLS"
linkagg lacp agg 4 actor admin-key 4
linkagg lacp port 1/2/1 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp port 1/2/2 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp port 1/2/3 actor admin-key 2
linkagg lacp port 1/2/5 actor admin-key 3
linkagg lacp port 1/2/6 actor admin-key 3
linkagg lacp port 2/2/1 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp port 2/2/2 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp port 2/2/3 actor admin-key 2
linkagg lacp port 2/2/5 actor admin-key 3
linkagg lacp port 2/2/6 actor admin-key 3
As you can see the 1 2 and 3 linkagg lacp agg are working but with RJ45 ports (OS-XNI-T8), so i repeat is link lacp agg is possible with the SFP+ ports from on 6900 ?

thank you in advance
Julkillu ;)

Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 11:06
by julkillu
After search i find yes it's possible but it didn't help me i always get this error :

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ERROR: Not aggregable port creation failed, please remove other configuration on this port
so here is my show configuration snapshot all :

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! Chassis:
system name "OS6900-LS"
system location "GAMAC"

! Configuration:
configuration error-file-limit 2

! Capability Manager:
! Multi-Chassis:
! Virtual Flow Control:
! LFP
! Interface:
! Link Aggregate:
linkagg lacp agg 1 size 4 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 1 name "Vers-Juniper"
linkagg lacp agg 1 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp agg 2 size 4 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 2 name "Vers-Stack-6450"
linkagg lacp agg 2 actor admin-key 2
linkagg lacp agg 3 size 4 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 3 name "Vers-SRVNASPICOTY"
linkagg lacp agg 3 actor admin-key 3
linkagg lacp agg 4 size 2 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 4 name "Vers-SRVNASLS"
linkagg lacp agg 4 actor admin-key 4
linkagg lacp port 1/2/1 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp port 1/2/2 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp port 1/2/3 actor admin-key 2
linkagg lacp port 1/2/5 actor admin-key 3
linkagg lacp port 1/2/6 actor admin-key 3
linkagg lacp port 2/2/1 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp port 2/2/2 actor admin-key 1
linkagg lacp port 2/2/3 actor admin-key 2
linkagg lacp port 2/2/5 actor admin-key 3
linkagg lacp port 2/2/6 actor admin-key 3

! VLAN:
vlan 1 admin-state enable
vlan 10 admin-state enable
vlan 10 name "management"
vlan 12-14 admin-state enable
vlan 12 name "Rzo OBS"
vlan 13 name "Rzo SFR"
vlan 14 name "MPLS BP"
vlan 16 admin-state enable
vlan 16 name "DMZ"
vlan 192 admin-state enable
vlan 192 name "Vlan-Serveur"
vlan 197-198 admin-state enable
vlan 197 name "ALX"
vlan 198 name "WMS"
vlan 1000 admin-state enable
vlan 1000 name "Vmotion"
spb bvlan 4000-4015 admin-state enable
mac-learning vlan 4000-4015 disable
vlan 10 members linkagg 1-2 tagged
vlan 12 members linkagg 1-2 tagged
vlan 13 members linkagg 1-2 tagged
vlan 14 members linkagg 1-2 tagged
vlan 16 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 16 members port 2/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 16 members linkagg 1-2 tagged
vlan 192 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 192 members port 2/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 192 members linkagg 1-2 tagged
vlan 197 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 197 members port 2/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 197 members linkagg 1-2 tagged
vlan 198 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 198 members port 2/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 198 members linkagg 1-2 tagged
vlan 1000 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 1000 members port 2/1/2-19 tagged
vlan 1000 members linkagg 1 tagged

! Spanning Tree:
spantree mode flat
spantree vlan 1 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 10 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 12 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 13 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 14 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 16 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 192 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 197 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 198 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 1000 admin-state enable
spantree vlan 4000 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4001 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4002 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4003 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4004 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4005 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4006 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4007 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4008 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4009 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4010 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4011 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4012 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4013 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4014 admin-state disable
spantree vlan 4015 admin-state disable

! Bridging:
! Port Mirroring:
! Port Mapping:
! IP:
ip service port 123 admin-state enable
ip interface "management" address 10.10.1.216 mask 255.255.255.0 vlan 10 ifindex 10

! IPv6:
! IPSec:
! IPMS:
! AAA:
aaa authentication default "local"
aaa authentication console "local"


! NTP:
ntp server 192.168.1.241 prefer
ntp client admin-state enable

! QOS:
! Policy Manager:
! VLAN Stacking:
! ERP:
! MVRP:
mvrp enable

! LLDP:
! UDLD:
! Server Load Balance:
! High Availability Vlan:
! Session Manager:
session prompt default "6900-LS"

! Web:
! Trap Manager:
! Health Monitor:
! System Service:
swlog console level warning
system timezone CET

! SNMP:
! BFD:
! IP Route Manager:
ip static-route 0.0.0.0/0 gateway 10.10.1.253 metric 1

! VRRP:
ip load vrrp

! UDP Relay:
! RIP:
! OSPF:
! IP Multicast:
! DVMRP:
! IPMR:
! RIPng:
! OSPF3:
! BGP:
! ISIS:
! Netsec:
! Module:
! RDP:
! DA-UNP:
! DHL:
! Ethernet-OAM:
! SAA:
! SPB-ISIS:
spb isis bvlan 4000 ect-id 1
spb isis bvlan 4001 ect-id 2
spb isis bvlan 4002 ect-id 3
spb isis bvlan 4003 ect-id 4
spb isis bvlan 4004 ect-id 5
spb isis bvlan 4005 ect-id 6
spb isis bvlan 4006 ect-id 7
spb isis bvlan 4007 ect-id 8
spb isis bvlan 4008 ect-id 9
spb isis bvlan 4009 ect-id 10
spb isis bvlan 4010 ect-id 11
spb isis bvlan 4011 ect-id 12
spb isis bvlan 4012 ect-id 13
spb isis bvlan 4013 ect-id 14
spb isis bvlan 4014 ect-id 15
spb isis bvlan 4015 ect-id 16
spb isis control-bvlan 4000
spb isis interface port 1/1/2-19
spb isis interface port 2/1/2-19
spb isis interface linkagg 1-3
spb isis admin-state enable

! SVCMGR:
! LDP:
! EVB:
! APP-FINGERPRINT:
! FCOE:
! Dynamic auto-fabric
auto-fabric admin-state enable

! SIP Snooping
! DHCP Server:
! DHCPv6 Relay:
! Dhcpv6Srv:
! QIP Message Service:
! QIP Active Lease Service:
What are the configuration on this ports that i don't see and who block me ?

Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 02:02
by silvio
There must be an error in Image. Did you use the newest 7.3.3.438?
I have seen a similar strange error at sfp+ ports with 6900 (X40 with 7.3.2).
per Default at all SFP+ ports autoneg is disabled. But after pluging a sfp-gig modul autneg was enabled automaticly. Also later after unplugging the sfp-gig and plug-in a SFP-10G autoneg was still enabled. And ports with this Settings has make a lot of strange Problems.

please check the autoneg/Speed settings and compare with other ports:
Show Interface Status

We have solved our Problem with disabling autoneg via command.

regards
silvio

Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 28 Sep 2014 18:14
by murrayfar
Do a "show vlan members port 1/1/18".

It looks like you have several vlans tagged on that port. You need to remove all of the tagged vlans, leave the default vlan.
After that, you should be able to add 1/1/18 to your linkagg and then tag the vlans you want onto the linkagg.



vlan 16 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged

vlan 192 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged

vlan 197 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged

vlan 198 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged

vlan 1000 members port 1/1/2-19 tagged

Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 29 Sep 2014 02:24
by virat07ec
Hi,

Could you try configuring the LACP after disabling the auto-fabric feature?

Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 29 Sep 2014 05:16
by julkillu
Hi and thank for your response,

Indeed i have exactly the same problem so this is what i try :

- plug a 1 gb SFP, and as you the port is autoneg enable.

- unplug the 1gb SFP and plug a 10 gb SFP the port stay in enable autoneg state.

- try some commands with a SFP 10G plug into the port "interfaces 1/1/18 autoneg disable" ok.

- SFP 10g always plug + "interfaces 1/1/18 autoneg enable" =

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"ERROR: AutoNegotiation is not supported for 10 Gig"
- same commands without any SFP plug it work, so when a 10g SFP is plug autoneg is not supported

Therefore i try to disable autoneg via commands and still the same problem :

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ERROR: Not aggregable port creation failed, please remove other configuration on this port
:(

Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 29 Sep 2014 11:15
by julkillu
@ murrayfar

I already try this, i remove all vlan on this port, except the SPB vlan so here is the vlan on this port :

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vlan      type        status
--------+-----------+---------------
     1    default       inactive
  4000    spb           inactive
  4001    spb           inactive
  4002    spb           inactive
  4003    spb           inactive
  4004    spb           inactive
  4005    spb           inactive
  4006    spb           inactive
  4007    spb           inactive
  4008    spb           inactive
  4009    spb           inactive
  4010    spb           inactive
  4011    spb           inactive
  4012    spb           inactive
  4013    spb           inactive
  4014    spb           inactive
  4015    spb           inactive
But it change nothing still the same error, when i try to add this port in my linkagg, do you think i need to remove the SPB vlan too ?

@ virat07ec

I'll try your solution tomorow, but i already see some post about the Dynamic Auto-fabric who are responsible of a lot of problem, what is exactly the rule of this feature ? my VC is in production i don't wan't to create a crash xD.

Can i disable the AUto-Fabric, try my linkagg and if it work, re-enable the Auto Fabric without interruption ?

Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 30 Sep 2014 03:19
by julkillu
Hi,

Ok i've doing some search for understanding Dynamic auto-fabric, and it's ok.

Therefore i disable Dynamic auto-fabric + remove all vlan even SPB vlan on my port and still the same error :

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ERROR: Not aggregable port creation failed, please remove other configuration on this port
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Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 30 Sep 2014 04:05
by julkillu
Ok i've trying this :

- Dynamic auto-fabric is enable.

- Switch my Synology from " Fault tolerance only (non 802.3ad network environment)" normal/backup to "IEEE 802.3ad Dynamic link aggregation"

Ok when i do that the VC of 6900 automatically create a linkagg like this :

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linkagg lacp agg 127 size 16 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 127 actor admin-key 65535


Ok why not but there is no port in this linkagg, and when i try to change the size, the admin key or the number id of the linkagg i can't, i have some error message; is it possible to change parameter on automatically created linkagg ?

P.S : change admin key work but only in command with the web interface i have this message "Submission failed : Lacp key parameter out of range [1..65535]" ... lol

Re: LACP on 10gb SFP

Posted: 19 Nov 2014 06:36
by PatrickNoblet
Hi,

I think you have a configuration with SPB..
in version 7.3.3, the default configuration have autofabric enable, so you have :

spantree mode flat -> 1 instance in rstp
mvrp enable -> Automatic configuration of Vlan
auto-fabric admin-state enable

then you have Bvlan 4000-4015 with isis protocol. If you are in a virtual configuration probably, you don't need to use these features

in your configuration you have :
spb isis interface port 1/1/2-19
spb isis interface port 2/1/2-19
so you have a configuration on the port 1/1/18...
you need to remove all spb configuration.. (spb, isis, bvlan etc..)


I have this configuration in a VC and it's work fine
linkagg lacp agg 0 size 4 admin-state enable
linkagg lacp agg 0 actor admin-key 65535
linkagg lacp port 1/2/12 actor admin-key 65535
linkagg lacp port 1/3/12 actor admin-key 65535
linkagg lacp port 2/2/12 actor admin-key 65535
linkagg lacp port 2/3/12 actor admin-key 65535